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i'm harris falkner, updates when you want them on huckabee starts right now. thank you for watching. >> tonight on huckabee, casey anthony's defense team celebrating her acquittal. >> there is a dead baby in this case, there's nothing to celebrate. >> what's it like defending someone charged with murder. do defense attorneys, i ask them, and they lie. >> and did prosecutors go too far in charging casey anthony with murder. >> the prosecutor who got susan smith guilty, on proving beyond a reasonable doubt. >> they also admitted there's not enough evidence to prove that even though i strongly believe it. >> how does the jury separate feeling that and jurors from inside the scott peterson trial take us inside the jury
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room. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. >> mike: welcome to the special edition in new york city. and since i've last been with you, i've had some of the biggest news in my life. as of july of the 2nd, i am a grandfather. i'm pretty happy about that. [applause] >> i want to tell you about my newest addition, this is chan letter james huckabee. he's 7 pounds 2 ounces and 20 1/2 inches long and i happen to believe he he might be the most beautiful baby and he's saluting and ready to be a five star generation and three generations of us huckabee and we are he' excited. i plan to be the most obnoxious grandparent in the history of mankind. so, i hope you enjoy seeing pictures each and every week of my grandson and i'll show pictures and jean way after we
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show the pictures that's all we'll have time for tonight. anyway, we're proud and grateful to my son and daughter-in-law who are giving us this great joy. well, this wook, america's eyes and ears were focused on the trial of casey anthony, as the jury shocked everyone with their verdict. >> as to the charge of first degree murder, verdict as to count one, we the jury find the defendant not guilty, so say we all. orlando, orange county, florida, on this 5th day of july, 2011. signed the foreperson. as to the charge of aggravated child abuse, verdict as to count 2, we the jury find the defendant not guilty. so say we all, stated orlando, orange county, florida, this 5th day of july, 2011. signed foreperson. >> mike: well, the nation's outrage over the verdict oped up a strong conversation about whether asking for the death penalty was a factor in the prosecution's case.
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overwhelmingly polls show that most americans have some strong misgiving about executing a mother for the death of her children. it's why most of the almost 3300 people who are on death row in the united states only 62 of them, that's less than 2%, happen to be women. now, i've seen interviews of people speaking out and saying they have no trouble carrying out a death sentence on a mother and people often speak as if they would gladly conduct an excuse. and i seriously doubt it. and i know a little more about the subject than most of some of the tough talkers. in ten and a half years of governor i had to carry out the death penalty 16 times. and no matter how you think you would react, when you pick up the pen and sign your name to a death warrant that starts in motion a decision that is going to end in the death of a human being, you think about it. and when the iv line is in the veins of the condemned person and your verbal command injects the lethal drugs, it's
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not so simple. in the four it ten minutes until death is pronounced, time stands still. one of the executions that i had to preside over was one of only 12 women executed in modern times. she was a mother, and had killed her two children. she refused to accept any legal assistance to stop her execution. and now, people can talk how certain they are on deciding on a death sentence because they've never had to do it. i don't understand how the casey anthony jury could find her not guilty on all the charges, including manslaughter. but i also don't understand how people could possibly think it would be easy to take the life of a mother. oon one who kills a child. and god help us all if that ever gets to be easy. well, that's my view and you can contact me at mike and share with me your views as well.
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and like casey anthony. what did you think of the casey anthony verdict. what was your initial reaction when you heard the verdict? >> i'm never surprised at the jury verdicts. the verdict could go either way. there's enough evidence to infer that she may have killed the baby. the duct tape. you had to draw inferences, but enough gaps from the evidence from which a reasonable jury could conclude. jurors are not computers and you can't predict the outcome by quantifying the outcome. that's the american system. >> mike: was there something the jury could have done? could they have reduced the charges and not given her first degree murder, but given her some other type of-- i mean, they even rejected manslaughter. >> that's right. >> mike: so maybe that's a hard part for people to understand that they let her walk on all the charges, dealing with the actual death of the baby. >> that's a good point. i think there really was more
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than enough evidence to convict on manslaughter. what i think happens though is that the defense proposed an alternative theory, that is that she had nothing to do with the death. that maybe the father, her father had something to do with the deathenways covering up his own negligence because that was a plausible theory and because the prosecution lost a lot of the credibility by overcharging they probably did the wrong thing. in many respects the prosecutor asked for too much and got too little. they probably could have gotten a verdict of manslaughter. the defense made mistakes, too, never showed have opening the argument saying the father abused the daughter. when do you that, you make it sound oh, she was abused and may explain why she killed the child. why she committed an act of violence. there were mistakes on both sides, but a criminal trial is not a determine naation who is better lawyer, it's the evidence, a could it raise a reasonable doubt. >> mike: i used to have
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arguments with the lawyer in my office all the time and the argument was often over something had to be deemed as being legal even if it wasn't right. and i think that's a challenge sometimes for what i would call any average citizen versus a person who is in essence an officer of the court because the officer of the court says is it legal? most of us are looking at it saying, is it right? help us to understand that the court's job is not to figure out if something is right or wrong, but whether or not it is legal or illegal. >> right. >> you know, you hope that a legal system has something to do with right and wrong and morality and justice. we've been striving for that since the days of the bible, obviously. but oliver wendell holmes got into an argument with one of his law clerks, a supreme court justice, but the clerk said, it's not moral, it's not justice. he says we're not in the justice or morality business,
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we're in the law business. >> mike: say that again, a lot of people would understand. the justice system is not the morality business. >> you want morality go to a philosopher, a minister, a rabbi, a priest. if you want justice, a philosopher. if you want something to be legally correct, that's what lawyers know how to do. now, we try hard to bring together morality and legality as much as we can. but take, for example, the issue if your a' a priest or a minister and somebody tells you a deep dark secret that they killed somebody and buried the body. the right thing to do is to turn to the police, country do that if you're a priest or minister, the law says you have a protect the secret or confidence. often we will have a conflict what's right and moral on one hand and legal on the the other. >> mike: in another interview, you said don't expect too much from our legal system. don't expect truth. don't expect justice, because that's not what it's going to get you. >> that's right. and it's a terrible thing to have to tell my law students.
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they want to come to law students wanting to do justice and wanting to find truth and the legal system isn't geared up to do that. we have exclusionary rules, we say if you obtained the evidence illegally had has to be kept out. it's good evidence and proves something, or if you told something to your wife. your wife can't testify against you even though it might be the truth. there are a lot of areas where truth is in conflict with the law. or where morality is in conflict with the law. it's hard to understand and explain, but it's essence of what makes our legal system so great because we live by the rule of law, not by the rule of human beings. >> that kind of goes to the question i want today ask. as a defense attorney you have a handled very high profile cases, the von bulow trial and handled the o.j. simpson case as part of the defense team. does it matter whether your client is guilty or innocent in terms of how you represent them? do you ask them that question. >> i ask them and they lie to
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me, they all lie to me all the time. clients lie all the time. and you have to get use today that. my friends who are doctors say patients lie to them all the time. >> mike: does it make it harder for you. >> for one thing i have never done, never celebrate the victories, don't go go out and have drinks like the lawyers in this case did. there's a dead baby, there's nothing to intrit. maybe the justice system worked and maybe it didn't. i have a rule in my offices we do not celebrate victories, acquittals, if we lose we go back and work harder. if we win, i'm sad when i win a case, i don't feel good. i feel like a priest would feel having to go home with a deep dark secret. i've done what i have to do, i've done the right thing legally, but i'm not happy, i'm conflicted. professor, you understand how so many people, particularly those who watched this trial, felt outraged. they felt like the american
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justice system failed, that this was a miscarriage of justice not a carriage of justice. how can you help them to put this in perspective so they don't become cynical and angry and scream and say, but the technicalities of the law are allowing guilty people to go out there and walk in the streets and become millionaires, that's what this young lady is going to be, she's going to get rich off this. >> i sure hope not. i hope the state of florida takes every penny she earns on the case and help real victims of crimes. >> mike: look, people should be angry and you should be angry if you think an injustice has been done, don't take it outen the jurors. wrong to have signs saying jurors are not welcome. or wrong for jurors to fear for their lives. jurors have to know they're free to come to a legally free decision, a difference between being angry. >> sure, if you're angry, justice was not done to caylee, the killer whoever it was, if there was a killer, is
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free. there will neveren justice in this case, be angry and try to change the system if you think it's deserved to be changed. don't take it out on the judge who did a good job and the jurors who thought they did as good a job as they could. and everybody did their job. the system worked even though we have a right to be angry at the result. if we feel the result did not comport with truth and justice. do we need changes in the judicial system if if so, what changes should we demand. >> if there's evidence that the defendants contributed to the disappearance of evidence, that should be a different crime. i think she was charged too little with misleading the police. should have been charged with obstruction of justice. should have been charged with withholding evidence and putting the police on a wild goose chase and should have served 10 or 15 years in prison and for those crimes, even if she had nothing to do with the murder. >> couldn't agree more.
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>> casey anthony trial had some similarities to the mid '90s murder trial of susan smith. in that case prosecutors argued smith's two young son got in the way of the relationship with her boyfriend and he she drown them and putting them in the back seat of the car and letting them roll into the lake. the motive similar to the one the prosecution of the casey anthony trial and claimed at that caylee got in the the way of casey's hard partying life style. and both lied to police and
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sent them on a wild goose chase and knew they were not missing. >> and keeping my faith that they're going to be okay. >> but one big difference, the jury in the susan smith trial found her guilty and sentenced her to life in prison. joining me is the prosecutor from that trial, tommy pope, since that time, tommy is now a member of the south carolina house of representatives. tommy, thank you for joining me today and i want to first get a reaction to what professor dershowitz said regarding celebrating. i thought it was poignant that as a defense attorney he he said he did not celebrate even when he got acquittal. >> i think you know, as a prosecutor and attorney you're human, but by the same token we deal in tragedy and so, would i be disappointed if i was on the case and didn't turn out, absolutely. happy or excited if it did turn out, but it's really about justice.
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there was life lost, the media coverage thing, we're kind of numb to it. you alluded to earlier, nobody understands about seeking death and what that really means. we get kind of comfortable with it, but the truth is we're dealing with lives and we're dealing with serious situations. >> in the case of susan smith, you sought the death penalty for her and she ended up getting life without patrol. >> right. >> are women treated-- >> or life with parole. >> she does have, potential of parole? >> unfortunately, she has about ten more years. >> oh, my goodness. >> we'll see. >> do women get a different treatment than the criminal justice system because they're women and specifically because they're mothers. >> i think that unfortunately he they do. i always said on the smith case had it been the black man she allegedly said happened or had it been the father i think you may have seen a different outcome and i think it's stems somewhat from the nature of we want to be comfortable that if a mother does do something,
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it's really because of some psychological issue. when i left today. i left my kids with my wife. i'm comfortable when i get home they'll be taken care of. if that does the not happen we want to assign there must be something wrong. >> lets he' talk about the prosecution in the casey anthony case and i know you're probably reluctant to criticize another prosecutor, you don't have the opportunity to look through what they saw. >> sure, sure. >> just from the surface, from an observant standpoint and you have greater insights than the rest of us having done a similar case. are there some mistakes you felt they would have made in the prosecution of the case. >> you nailed it at the beginning, i never want to a armchair quarterback, and everybody doesn't know what i'm seeing and what's going on. i wouldn't want to judge them. you touched on earlier, the seeking of the death penalty or not. two things i'd say on that, one, whatever punishment is available in a given case, and
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like with smith, the greatest punishment available was the death penalty. i think that's what this crime would deserve. the flip side is once you seek the death penalty, the juror in a bifurcated or two part trial is going to have to decide guilt first and penalty next. and so what happens often times is that juror who is trying to wrestle with reasonable doubt starts thinking, you know, if i make this decision, if i make this leap because of circumstantial evidence i've got to do the things you were talking about. i've got to sign my name to give somebody death so i think that sometimes in seeking the death penalty and again you alluded to this earlier, seeking the death penalty can weaken the chances for guilt. >> mike: so in the case of the anthony trial, one of the arguments was that the forensic evidence wasn't strong enough. do you think the prosecutor may have overcharged? i mean, i think that's what the professor was saying. >> yeah, i -- you know, again, today we can certainly sit here and say yes.
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because i think what we saw in this jury was a jury who used beyond a reasonable doubt to effectively avoid that second decision as we discussed. but, with the evidence that was there, it was certainly circumstantial and we live in the csi world. i often use today stand before the jury and part of my opening statement would be explaining, really, this isn't csi and although i've touched this glass and chair and jury rail, my dna may o-may not have been. if the dna had been there, they would say of course it is, it's their mother, but we're so primed from television like you said at the end of the show we get the answers. >> or alan said, we don't see that in real life, unfortunately. >> that brings me to the question, is it harder now to prosecute a case because people have the expectation of everything being so cut and dried and absolute and expecting the gee-whiz moment
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that may not ever come in a criminal case? >> i used to tell my victims when we'd sit down, 'cause you're sitting with families and talking about going to trial and they'll say i just want to go to trial because i want it know the truth. and i say and this is kind of paraphrasing what alan said, i say we'll go to trial and hopefully we will have a conviction in this matter, but you may never truly know what happened that night because there may be only two people, there may be the victim and the defendant that only are the real ones that can it will you what happened. so, but i will kind of differ with alan a little bit when he was talking about our system to deliver truth. i think when you meet that burden of beyond reasonable doubt. we can be comfortable that the individuals that are convicted in those matters, that the truth has been found. >> tommy, personally, what's the toughest part in cost cuting a tough says, for you, the susan smith case, this is a horrible thing, a mother
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kills her two kids and you seek the death penalty. when you go home that night what do you say to your wife, the night the trial is over, away from the cameras and the publicity, what do you say to her. >> you want to know to the best of your ability that you did justice. the hard e-thing for me in a high profile case, people will attribute motives to you. the reason i sought the death penalty because i supposedly was running for governor and i haven't made it yet. and people always attribute different motives to the prosecutor particularly when you're in the public eye. you've got to know and rest, just like you said signing the death warrants. you've got to know you didn't play to the public, you did what you thought was right and be able to live with that and yourself. >> mike: tommy, thank you for your insight and sharing your story with us here today. >> thank you, an honor to be here. >> mike: thank you, very very much. much. >> there are two people who
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the big question, what happened inside the white house a short time ago between him and a bipartisan group of key law makers, negotiating how to look at the debt ceiling, 14 trillion dollars in debt. democrats and republicans are fighting with. and the august 2nd cap, the president's idea to raise taxes is unaccept ablg, they're saying. again, the president set tomorrow to hold a news conference, no advance word yet coming into what we can expect to hear from him. coming out of tonight's meeting which lasted about 75 minutes, word of more death talks scheduled for tomorrow. i'm harris falkner, now, let's get you back to huckabee, all the latest >> . >> mike: joan me daily on the radio for the huckabee report
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and news and commentary 600 radio stations and get the huckabee report on a daily pod cast, go to for details. spectators in the casey anthony trial expressed shock at the jury's not guilty verdict, but as the classic film, "12 angry men" shows the emotions and dynamics of the members of a jury can play a big part in the outcome of a trial. >> what's the matter with you guys? you all know he's guilty. he is he got to, letting him slip through our fingers. through our fingers? are you his executioner? >> i'm one of them. >> perhaps you'd like to pull the switch. >> for this kid, you bet i will. >> i feel sorry for you what it must feel like to want to pull the switch. you act like a self-appointed public avenger, not because of the facts. you're a sadist. >> well, jurors come from all walks of life, with individual
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perspectives, morals and even prejudices. but the law requires them to come together and weigh the facts of the case and then decide someone's guilt or innocence. what's it like deliberating a case that could lead to the death penalty for the accused. i'm joined by three members of the jury who in 2004 convicted scott peterson of murdering his pregnant wife lacy and unborn child connor. and joining us here today, they were on the scott peterson trial. michelle again with you. talk about the stress that the jury members experienced in the process of going through, in your case, a very high profile, highly televised trial similar to the casey anthony case? >> it was difficult, number one, i was an alternate at first, so you listen to all the information and at the end you're not able to do anything with it so that's frustrating and then i was put in as a juror and we had to start the
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whole process all over again, so that was difficult with the other jurors in there who had already deliberated, but they had to catch me up to where they were. and then, just all the dinner dynamics and different personalities, but i think we were real lucky because our jury, we got along really well. >> mike: mike, you didn't know any of these other people. they didn't know you, you're suddenly thrown together and it's not like you're deciding where your going to have lunch. you're going to decide whether a person lives or dies. a weighty decision for a person pulled out of his ordinary life. >> governor, it's so stressful. what i saw, dynamics as i went through those deliberations and as i saw it, it weighed very heavy on every single person in that room. we aren't deciding as you say where we're going to dinner. not deciding this person will not or not have a job tomorrow, we're deciding whether or not this person is
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going to spend the rest of their life in prison or going to go free, whether the person can face the executioner. so, you know, you just, it just puts you in another, in other world so to speak, and they just, it's so stressful. and so trying, and you only get one shot. so you better get it right the first time. and everybody knows that sitting in the room. he so, they give everything they can hopefully to arriving at a conclusion that brings about some justice. >> mike: i want to bring you into this. we saw the little clip for 12 angry men, and know that personalities being what they are, there's certainly going to be tension. were there tensions in the jury room as it related to the scott peterson deliberations? >> there was. especially for the guilty phase.
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we had a foreperson that him and i clashed. i didn't think he was respecting the other jurors in the way he was giving equal time to deliberate on the facts. so, when he put the three words up, guilty, innocent or a hung jury, i said, you can erase innocent because at that point i knew where i stood and i continued to dtdz you even though i hadn't made up my mind, the system allows you to make that statement, but they prefer that you don't make it that soon, but i did, and we went on from there. and eventually that foreperson was excused. >> mike, when he was convicted, then he was sentenced it death. he's awaiting a death sentence, if and when that date comes, tell me what you feel will happen? will there be closure for you? will at that bring an end to all of this if the execution
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happens? >> it won't change anything, we still have-- bringing closure to me, no, i don't, you know, oort way it goes, if they convert-- there's some discussion converting it to life and the death penalty being abolished in california, and if that happens, it happens. what i know that i did and my fellow jurors did, we did the right thing so he will never see the light of day outside prison walls. that was the right thing to do. if he's executed, well, you know, based on the explanation of law as we were given, and application of that there of, he had it coming and this is what we ruled. and will i attend the execution? i don't think so. but i won't shed a tear for one second. >> mike: john, i want to ask you about watching the events taking place in florida, the jury saying that this person
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is not guilty, were you stunned by that? and how did you react as someone who had been through that process as a juror, specifically to the criticism that the jury has faced since then? >> you know, i was surprised about their verdict. i wasn't stunned, only because the reason that they were sequestered from day one, we weren't, we were allowed to go on with our lives. and being sequestered, it might have had a factor in making the quick decision they had, they wanted to go home. i know they looked over the facts, but if it was maybe less time sequestered, maybe spent more time on it. >> thank you for being here, and thank you for serving as members of of the jury. there are some in the country do everything they can to get out of jury duty. i can understand why they would, you give away your lives and give away some of your personal, really, sense of privacy and then you make
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decisions that very few human beings are called on to make and noi there are people angry about what happened in florida. our jury system, yes, it's imperfect because we as people are imperfect. and if there's any comfort in the decision that the jury makes that i don't agree with, to me it comes back to the point we may never see justice on this earth. but i have confidence one day all of us will stand before god and we will give an account to our lives and there there will be no hung juries and no innocent verdicts and not guilty for those of us who truly are guilty and we will pay and have a request for what we have done. thank you guys r guys for being here today and sharing the story of inside the jury room. [applause] >> for the latest national unemployment rate has climbed to 9.2%. will the economy ever recover? i'm going to ask fox business
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(applause) >> according to the labor department. just 18,000 new jobs were created, all across america in the month of june. that's the slowest pace in nine months. now, president obama tried to explain why his policies are failing, to stimulate the economy. watch. >> wa, wa, wa, wa, wa. (laughter) >> wa wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa. >> mike: (laughter) >> i'm sure you got that explanation and here is how the american public reacted. [crickets] >> okay, so we've had a little fun at the president's expense, and i hope it didn't offend anybody, but here is
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the point, every month we continue to have bad numbers and they get worse and the recovery from this last recession has been the worst since the great depression and i'm going to talk about that, and joining me shibani joshi from the fox business network. good to have you here. >> happy to be here. >> mike: and the numbers from the xhifrts and the numbers continue to pick up and show if there is a recovery, it's the best kept secret in america. >> it's certainly not happening when we can't find any evidence of this. the stock market was certainly surprised, wall street is surprised and i think that america is surprised to hear that the yoits only created 18,000 jobs last month. what i find remarkable one of my colleagues sard with me, governor, the nation of canada has 38 million people and created 25,000 jobs last month. and we have ten times as many citizens in this country and can't create enough jobs out there to meet the demand much less to make ourselves competitive with other nations
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that are a fraction of our size and it just continues to so what's happening with the administration, is proposing and the way of spending, in the the way of policies, really just isn't working right now. >> mike: we have a couple of graphs and i think to point out that this is not just sort of a modest, typical type of recovery, the graphs, and i'm going to put one on the board, this is going to show us the jobs at that we've seen, basically, .4% in the the first two years of our so-called recovery. after the depression, the recovery was almost 12% increase, and the total number of jobs, this is shocking. this is not much of a recovery, we came out of the depression much better. >> and my point is that it this is the only graph that really matters. if americans aren't seeing jobs created and don't feel like one, if they don't feel they're going to get a job and impacts confidence and a job that impacts confidence they don't have a job and don't have money in their pockets to one, pay their mortgages then the housing market gets impacted. and put disposable income into
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the economy and that impacts everything from corporate profits to overall consumer confidence and impacts wall street and impacts the global economy and it has a ripple effect that has many more times magnitude in terms of impact than any or thing that we can talk about regarding the economy. >> well, you mentioned housing and i want to look at another graph. home prices for the current recession, negative trent minus 10.1 spent compared to the average change in recovery 1.6% and you can see, and i hope people can make out the recovery there, versus the average and then, 1980, but you see here, the current is absolutely dismal, this is the best way i think i could describe it. >> and so, we're falling behind on a couple of levels. if americans don't have jobs we're not going out and feel we should be buying homes. we shouldn't be buying homes, i'm not surprised the homes are showing this impact. the americans are doing the responsible thing. if you don't have a job, don't
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have security, you're not buying a home. hand in hand. on the secondhand what the data shows we're not recovering in way we typically have been doing after the great depression he we can't follow a play book we've seen in any sort of recovery. we're in sort of a no-man's land and no-man's world where we're in a situation you can't spend data, you can't look at a play book for, this is a different type of animal we're dealing with altogether. >> mike: it's an interesting fact there is one market in all of america where housing prices have not declined, but actually improved, washington d.c. >> imagine that. >> mike: i find it interesting, because it's the only market that posted a positive gain and it's experiencing its 23rd consecutive month leading in the housing market. and it had positive annual growth for 17 consecutive months. shibani, is it possible that the reason so many people in washing, both democrats and republicans, don't understand the severity of this
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incredible recession, is because they're living in a town that is essentially recession proof? >> oh, absolutely. the government continues to hire, the government continues to give its employees raises, they are certainly working when the rest of us are not working when the rest of us are certainly working very hard. they really don't seem to be in touch with what's happening, all across america, and you can see it happening on so many different levels. one thing i want to add in here, governor, it's not all doom and gloom. i know we can show graph after graph after graph that shows that so many data points and facts and figures are so negative, but what americans need to be confident about is that corporations in america, whichened up being the catalyst for hiring people are making more profits than they ever have and corporate profits are up 50% and exports are also up, so our goods, our products and services abroad are being sold because other economies are growing. obviously we want to have that happen here in the united
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states, but we're seeing a positive picture in some areas and what matters most, as you and i both know, is jobs, but we do have some green shoots here to be positive about and want our audience and viewers to know that and it's not all doom and gloom. we need a lot more, and a lot more. >> mike: shibani, i'm happy you helped us end on a positive note. otherwise it's doom and gloom and heads in hands, it's all done, but this is a great country and democrats and republicans, or goof balls will find a way out of it because americans are innovators, creators and hard working people. and shibani, thank you for reminding of us of that. [applause] >> i'm going to be back with closing thoughts on the news of the week. we'll be right back, stay with us. >> we've got a flood.
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(applaus (applause) >> conservative comedian and fox news contributor steven crowder says his political views black listed him from the daily show with john stuart and when he revealed an e-mail showed the programs bias against conservatives it cost him a manager. i asked steven about his feud with the daily show and unfortunately we ran out of time on the show and didn't get around to airing it today and you can watch it on our website, i think you'll enjoy it. well, another story that caught my attention that you should know about. many of the provisions from the 2009 stimulus bill, officially called the american recovery and reinvestment act, are expiring this year. now, some have argued whether the entire bill worked or not.
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and you know, we may just want to take a look at a couple of specific programs and see how they did. and here is something you might not know, 7.2 billion of the 787 billion dollar package was for expanding broad band internet access to homes without it. rural parks in southwestern montana and northwestern kansas and northeastern minnesota. but did you know how much it costs for those homes to get broad band? here is a guess. 3,49,234 dollars per individual household and here is something worse, 1%, only 1% of the homes in rural montana were even without internet access if you include 3g wireless only seven homes in at that part of the state without access. now, when you do the math. the cost of extending access to those homes, hold on to
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your wallet here. the cost is 7 million dollars for each home served. do you feel good about your tax money being spent on the wonderful porkulous bill and obama continues to defend this bill as if it created jobs and did great things. upon close inspection it's outrageous, two weeks ago the human calculator showed how much each created or saved job costs now look at this program which claims to expand broad band. at what cost? $350,000 per household. that ought to give us something to think about. well, finally, this week, what a scene it was on the florida coast on friday. >> 2, 1, 0, and lift-off, the final lift-off of atlantis on the shoulders of the space shuttle, america will continue the dream. >> houston now controlling the flight of atlantis, the space
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shut spreads its wings one funer final time for the start of a sentimental journey. >> and among the crowd was my wife who took this from her iphone and every time the launch schedule got scrubbed, this time i couldn't go, but of course the shuttle went up. atlantis rocketed into space and despite the threat of rain, it went up, and it marked the final launch for nasa's space shuttle program which lasted a remarkable 30 years. and the space program is a point of great pride for america, and the scientists who made it happen and the courageous astronauts who trained beyond the breaking point and then risked their lives to guide these spacecraft for their trou pioneers, patriots and heroes. and i've been a strong supporter of this space exploration program since i was just a little guy. and i use today keep up with the mercury, gemini and apollo programs before there was a space shuttle. in 1971 when i was all of 15
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years old, i represented arkansas as a high school sophomore at the hugh o'brien space seminar at cape kennedy. there's me on the right of the screen and howe o'brien on the left. and one student from each state and ten from foreign countries spent two weeks with the astronauts and nasa engineers and noi that most americans may take our space program for granted and may not know how important it's been to their own lives, but it's a shame we're down siding this vital part of developing technology and innovation. it is one of the few places that government actually ought to spend more and not less. and here is why. if you watch television or have a digital camera or a smart phone, if you've ever had a life saving surgery, by laser, or maybe a disease diagnosed by an mri, if you've got a personal computer that's smaller than a buick, if you've ever e-mailed a photo of your grandkids like you'll doing almost every day, or if
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you've cooked in a microwave, maybe you'd even just found your way somewhere with a gps, you need to be glad there's a space program. that space program has been a very important part of it. [applause] >> by the way congratulations to yankee short stop derek jeter getting his 3000th hit in style with a home run. congratulations to a great sports figure and a class act! >> thanks for watching tonight. i'll look forward to being back with you next week. from new york, this is mike huckabee from the fox news studios, good night and god bless. bless. [applause]. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. the doctor leaned over and said to me, "you just beat the widow-maker." i was put on an aspirin, and it's part of my regimen now.
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FOX News July 10, 2011 8:00pm-9:00pm EDT

News/Business. Mike Huckabee comments on the news of the day. New.

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